Sonic Flare 100% should have been Sonic's forward smash, it's basically a break dance spin kick and it made so much more sense as a forward power attack than a punch for Sonic. Doesn't help that these big wifi events aren't region locking. quite a run from sonix though. He is known as a Wi-Fi Warrior, consistently placing highly in Wi-Fi tournaments, as well as one of the best players in his country. Off the top of my head, sakurai was happy enough to change the functionality of marth's shield breaker, add fludd to Mario, completely rework Bowser and Yoshi, change falco's shine, and probably more. For me personally, it rarely feels like a fight and more like an extremely one-sided game of hit-and-run. They are letting people enter from basically all over the hemisphere which just makes the lag worse. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies.

Although their reasoning does make sense in some ways, Well that was with prepatch Bayonetta, a little different situation, Big assumption that this is a meme, smash bans are generally unjustified and we haven't had a successful character ban ever. With all the input lag of wifi it's a lot harder to react to fast stuff like Sonic's spin dash, which gets used constantly. I still wish he had his Sonic Eagle axe kick from Sonic Battle as his forward air. Sonido is the one that travels the most but he's also the one that has the least impressive results. The same spin dashy, time outy tactics get used offline too. But I can see how you wanted different special. Continue browsing in r/smashbros.

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Press J to jump to the feed. Not too mad about this one. Very few Smash characters ever get changes to their special moves. One of my biggest wants for his return in Smash 5 (If he was to return) was that they gave him a new side special.

She's been doing spin dash camp timeouts for a while now. View entire discussion (3. comments) More posts from the smashbros community. Don't know why Sonic stays so stagnant.

Sonix is a smasher from the Dominican Republic who mains Sonic in both Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Super Smash Bros. KEN is a grad student doing research so doesn't really come to the US. Wrath has never been upset at a PGR tournament. I don't think it was hard for nintendo to convince konami at all as well.Those people really don't give a crap. I remember playing him for the first time in Brawl and just thinking there had to be more they could have done. I assume a lot of the Sonics don’t travel. Jun 2, 2008. Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros community! Also wifi is really bad so people get upset more easily about camping. r/smashbros: Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros community! Give Sonic chargeable Ancient Light field of effect attack, Magic Hands from SA2 grab range, aerial flame dash for side air or at least the Advance 1 air dash, etc. is it possible to camp out a bayonetta relatively easily? Cake Day.

I think it's partly due to how Sega wants him represented, same with the rest of the third-party characters and their respective companies (except Capcom because they don't give a crap :p). People just get pissy vibes from him, whether it's his unending smirk or two of his victory lines, "That was almost too easy!"

KEN is still easily top 20 and double eliminated MkLeo in May 2019, along with getting 3/4 at Umebura SP3/4. r/smashbros. But two spin dashes makes no sense and is just completely lazy. Reddit.

The feedback above doesn't need to be Sakurai's "fault" to be valid feedback. Sonic Updraft is basically Fox's up smash and could have been used.

Members. I agree. His alternate costumes don’t stand out too much (they change the pallete of his shoes and give him a bracelet and tint his fur slightly?

They could have been a way to mix up a character's moveset(with customs that were actually unique) while still letting people play the character in the old way. Krebs's tournaments are notorious for never having sonic mains enter, so as a joke he banned sonic, this is like when that one local in spain banned bayo, and literally nothing notable came out of it. The only way to fight sonic is to play defensive which is hard if your usual fighting style is offensive. Sonic WAS rushed. This is like that “duck hunt banned, sorry Kyle” ruleset that was going around this sub at the beginning of the game’s life. Sm4sh was better about this than Brawl). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. That said, I would put Sonic Flare as the Dsmash personally.

Sakurai is the director for this game, though, so he's the one who's got to hear the feedback and get the right people on board with the idea. Sonic Flare 100% should have been Sonic's forward smash, it's basically a break dance spin kick and it made so much more sense as a forward power attack than a punch for Sonic. I usually find Sonic boring to watch too. I’ll probably still play with him a lot when the game comes out, but I just feel disappointed that Sonic was barely changed aside from a new dash and revamped final smash. Sonix doesn't have great results in DR (he's still #1 though) but in the US he has 4 top 21 losses (Nairo, Maister, Zackray, Lea) + number 34 at the time Yeti and Plup who is still really good. Ultimate.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. Maybe I’m wrong, who knows? If only they changed his side b, I think he'd be okay. Also in regards to punching, he looks like he's about to give Eggman a nasty fist in the Colours opening so it's not entirely without precedent, and the wind-up animation makes a visual parallel to things like the super-peelout/spindash/spinning his foot in SatAM. Maybe it can change if the Smash team convinces them. r/SonicTheHedgehog: Reddit's own hideout for any and all Sonic The Hedgehog fans! Why are sonics doing this now on online tournies and not locals/ majors? I get that his DownB and SideB are technically different moves, but they’re almost practically the same and this was probably due to the fact he was added so late into Brawl’s development. I'm not even a huge Sonic fan and I'm disappointed with his moveset. I thought it was done to avoid conflicts with copyrighted Sonic fan characters? I agree, Sonic Battle had some really cool moves they could have easily lifted but it's a travesty they didn't.

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The possibilities are endless. I know this sounds like I’m nitpicking, and I probably am, but I just feel that overall, his representation in Smash is really lackluster. The opposite is true. Sonic Updraft is basically Fox's up smash and could have been used.

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That's probably going to happen come evo to(Who am I kidding almost every wifi tournament is going to have a group of sonics hoping to win money). WiFi won't be the catalyst for it. Sonic is the cause of a character's "worst matchup" the most, and nearly invalidates some characters if he fully commits to playing campy if that is how that mu goes. If it genuinly ruins the meta in the future then yeah, sure, ban WiFi sonic, but until we actually see him win almost every event I see no reason to immediately say he should be banned. This happens in offline too, but it's much harder to do against good players when they can actually react to spin dash, so they're way more likely to get shut down off stream before they take someone to a 40 minute set with 15k people watching and tweeting ban sonic.

Sonix doesn't spend money he wins towards going to other tournaments, so the only way he's traveled to the US is if he's funded.

Sonic is the cause of a character's "worst matchup" the most, and nearly invalidates some characters if he fully commits to playing campy if that is how that mu goes. Sonic's definitely needs to change though, because you can't justify it from the perspective of representation or gameplay or anything else. Maybe it won't change, in which case the criticism is still correct and valid. 217 entrants currently lol. He has a ton of reused assets from other fighters and his specials were similar so they could squeeze him in last minute to Brawl.

"Sonix" is an Ultimate, and former Wii U, Sonic player from the Dominican Republic. Now people who never had to play wifi are trying it out only to run into these shenanigans since wifi tournaments are the only option, so it's a ton of very sudden and terrible exposure. Some people find the spinning sound incredibly annoying because it's so high pitched in this game. or "Piece of cake! Sm4sh was better about this than Brawl), they picked some of the lamest stages from his series when there are so many amazing locations to pick from spanning the entire series, and he’s gotten a total of 1 original remix for the games. Just wanted to get that out of the way before we begin. Stream Page. I would've give him Tails for up B or Spark Shield Jump. None of them really travel that much. Using Reddit.

Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts So many other characters in smash have similar attacks like DK and Mario so why not use Sonic's signature attacks from the only real Sonic fighting game at the time? This is simply me speaking as a Sonic fan about what I feel is the blue blur’s portrayal in the Smash series. Wrath is a high school student that doesn't travel. Spin dash is hard to punish and is usually extremely safe which leads to ultra-defensive plays and timeouts, The spin dash sounds is UNREAL levels of annoying for most people (like me) and I have to mute the stream whenever Sonic comes on, Generally, he's not very fun to watch or play against so you have both viewers and players routinely voicing their disdain for him, He can be by far the campiest character. Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros community!