Through some research, I found that many discussions on Gothmog discount him as a Ringwraith based on Khamûl being the second-in-command. Thank you for the A2A! I don’t agree with the statement as Tolkien explicitly naming a Ringwraith and not the others does not mean it is impossible for a named character with no description to be one as well. He appears during the Battle of Hogwarts and immediately starts rampaging. © 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. I am in agreement that he couldn’t have been a Balrog like his First Age namesake. By narrator description he is the greatest of all Balrogs to ever walk Middle Earth, giving him scaling from all the others. Balerion has whatever armor Aegon gave him during his conquest (if any).
He is a Lieutenant. Gothmog should take it fairly easily. Firstly, only one[1] Ringwraith is named as “Witch-king of Angmar” is as much a name as “The Mouth of Sauron”. He should have an immunity to fire, and has dominance over at least some of the dragons for the LoTR universe, which are in general more impressive than anything in the.."more realistic" ASOIAF universe. There’s nothing to state that Khamûl was second-in-command of Minas Morgul. 1) Fire power Ancalagon the Black was probably the greatest dragon to ever live, as well as the one in whom "the old fire" was the strongest. Gothmog is described as a Lieutenant of Morgul.It’s a curious term. 2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King: Gothmog is portrayed as an Orc-general with a misshapen face. Just to put out some of the feats of Gothmog. Tolkien uses this word when it makes sense to do so. A single Balrog was able to drive off a whole city of dwarves singlehandedly, He killed two High Kings of the Noldor with little difficulty in one case, as well as beat the tar out of Hurin, Slaughtered whole ranks of elves with a few blows, Was killed by drowning in water, but it was later revealed in Lord of the Rings that Balrogs could change their shape to avoid this happening. If that were the case, then, of course, Gothmog would not be one. Steven Gibb's answer to What are some likely candidates for the eight unnamed Nazgûl? Even the name Gothmog seems to be a name greater than a mere Orc would have, as it is speculated to mean Black Master or Dread Enforcer. The only Gothmog of the Lord of the Rings is the the Lieutenant of Morgul; an interesting figure quoted only once commanding armies of Men to plunder Minas Tirith. And this isn't just any Balrog, it's Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs. It is not a stretch to say that a Lieutenant would be placed at each if the Witch-king was absent. Gothmog is the primary Orc-hero of the forces of Mordor, who only appears in The Rise of the Witch-king.. Lore Edit. Tolkien through his own experience and knowledge of language is well aware that this word is a mixture of “in place of” and “holding”. Not to sound biased, but I think Balerion would lose this fight.
It’s more likely that another would remain. That idea is ridiculous because if a Balrog was assaulting Minas Tirith then you’d be sure that it wouldn’t be overlooked by Tolkien. A Lieutenant is supposed to take over when the one in charge can no longer do so. Maybe I should have made speed equalized, it might just be a major stomp in his favor. Gothmog is briefly mentioned in The Lord of the Rings and there are no notes or drafts that explain exactly what he was. None of the Ringwraiths were based there and all were abroad in the name of Sauron, holding strongholds outside of Mordor.
This leaves me thinking that Gothmog would be either a terrible spirit that had taken shape as an Orc, like some Orcs of old under Morgoth in the First Age…or that Gothmog is one of the Nine. When the Witch-king was dwelling at Minas Morgul, the “Shadow of the East” known as Khamûl was placed in charge of Dol Guldur, with another Ringwraith used as a messenger. It could be a Man, and I would go with that over saying he was an Orc. I will just have to explain my own reasoning for believing he is a Ringwraith. If it doesn't, pretty sure Gothmog takes it. He is played by Lawrence Makoare and voiced by Craig Parker.
Another answer states that Gothmog cannot be one of the Nazgûl because only two of them are named. He appears during the Battle of Hogwarts and imme And he didn't wield a magma sword, he wielded a massive black ax, which was feared by Man, Elf, and Dwarf alike. Denethor is a Lieutenant to the true King of Gondor, just as all the Stewards are Lieutenants. Gothmog should win fairly easily. The latter seems more plausible to me. It’s a curious term. Balerion is not all that impressive compared to LotR dragons, and the Silmarillion says that Balrogs are more powerful and dangerous than LotR dragons. Location is a hilly field with some cover spots for hiding, but open enough for full flight. [1] Steven Gibb's answer to What are some likely candidates for the eight unnamed Nazgûl?
http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/calc-storage-beleriand-goes-bye-bye-the-silmarillion.18162/. Tolkien. It has always made sense to me and it means I can speculate that two of the Nazgul are named. Sure, he has a little on size over Gothmog, but both are winged, and both have extreme strength and agility, plus one has the ability to wield powerfully magic weapons with extreme effectiveness in combat. We know next to nothing about Gothmog, so don’t take my view here as some hidden truth that I’ve discovered. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Tier: At … In the book, Balrogs are less giant winged monstrosities and more human-sized demons using powerful magic.
Tolkien didn’t say “I have named Khamûl, and no one else I have ever named can be one”. Balrogs, or Balrogath ("Balrog-kind"), were Maiar corrupted by Morgoth during the creation of Arda, who cloaked themselves in shadow and flame and carried whips and swords. FYI: Gothmog was the captain of the Balrogs during Morgoth's rule. Does it make sense for the Witch-king to ride to Dol Guldur and then send Khamûl all the way to Minas Morgul? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. There are cases to be made for Gothmog possibly being an evil Man like the Mouth of Sauron. It's unlikely Balerion's fire would do anything at all to harm Gothmog, meaning he'd have to get into melee range. Press J to jump to the feed. Beneath him we have the Lieutenants; Khamûl the lieutenant of Dol Guldur and Gothmog the lieutenant of Minas Morgul. Neither opponent knows anything about the other. There are eight under the Witch-king and there are several strongholds that exist. I would have to definitely side with Gothmog. FYI: Gothmog was the captain of the Balrogs during Morgoth's rule. This could mean that under Sauron we have the Witch-king of Angmar as the Lord of the Nazgûl, answering only to Sauron. They are in charge “in lieu of” the leader. This answer is basically all speculation, so be warned. When the Witch-king was destroyed, his troops were waiting on his call to sack Minas Tirith in what Tolkien describes as the rape of Gondor….
If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Gothmog is described as a Lieutenant of Morgul. If he did that, Gothmog's magic and giant black ax would completely destroy Balerion. The other answers saying that it’s probably not the case are arguably correct.